Is quantum computing a threat to Bitcoin? How can Bitcoin become more secure against a quantum computing attack? Will this upgrade require moving coins to new addresses? Will it be implemented as a soft or hard fork? What happens to coins controlled by lost keys?
CORRECTION: Apologies for the confusion – regarding the question of whether Satoshi’s (suspected) coins would be vulnerable to a quantum computing attack on ECDSA, the correct answer is in the first clip at 3:05. While what I initially say at 6:10 is true, that Satoshi did not spend their coins, those coinbase transactions still used pay-to-public-key (P2PK) instead of pay-to-public-key-hash (P2PKH), which means the public keys are already exposed.
More about hashing and public key cryptography in Bitcoin: https://github.com/bitcoinbook/bitcoinbook/blob/develop/ch04.asciidoc
These questions are from the May monthly Patreon session and part of the Denver talk, which took place on May 26th and August 6th 2018 respectively. If you want early-access to talks and a chance to participate in the monthly live Q&As with Andreas, become a patron: https://www.patreon.com/aantonop
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In the near future, quantum computers will be able to crack all binary based cryptology algorithims easly beacuse of its design. Nature and universe is working based on quantum mechanics, and nature is very complex situation which is existing computers will never be simulate it one on one. Quantum copmuters will be able to simulate the nature and the universe closely. I mean that all cryptology systems have to be change based on quantum mechanics. I dont know how the quantum cryptology look like for now but we will see it.
They will just double spend until they cant double spend…What a great way to rule the world.
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IBM is selling his first public Quantum computer !!! Google it
The thing about Quantum computing is that only Gigantic institutions like IBM and people with the need to make extremely complex calculcations will be the first to use them. The US Government has a Blazzay attitude towards Cryptocurrency- They Don't like what it enables but so far they've got a mostly hands off approach and I think given the reality of how people in the US tend to vote it's unlikely we'll see a government in the US that is extraordinarily hostile to Bitcoin. Given that it's unlikely that the US Government will invest in a Quantum computer with the purpose of Breaking Bitcoin's Cryptography… That leaves only the kinds of the institutions that can afford a mainframe left to worry about. The Banks, IBM, Disney, etc. I find it highly unlikely that any of these institutions would use A Quantum computer to destroy Bitcoin. It's only when we get down to the level of Individual and personal Quantum Computers that I'd start to worry but we're NOWHERE near the day when You'll be able to buy a Quantum computer with the ease of buying a Laptop.
Very informative session. Have you explained SHA-256 and ECDSA in details, maybe in other videos?
I've been baptized by Andreas, blockchain has become an obsession for me now.
2:45–3:31 "You can change the algorithms of all the active wallets, but some wallets have lost keys or the people who had those keys died and they can't change the signing algorithm which means those wallets will be captured by quantum computers. So we will know what quantum computers exist when satoshi's coins move… That's one of the reasons why they will move. Eventually they will move and they will move because eventually someone will be able to break the keys. But for the rest of the eco system we can migrate quite easily to another algorithm. It's not really as big of a threat that people think it is."
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Most (all?) of Satoshi's coins are in P2PK addresses, not P2PKH, so his coins are immediately vulnerable to a quantum computer which can reverse ECDSA.
The fuck, I didn't know that Aantanop is Andreas M. Antonopoulos, I have been referring to your book from quite a while now.
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@aantonop the enigma code was broken by polish mathematicians and cryptoanalysts: Rajewski, Rozycki, Zygalski
ethereum is quantum computing resistant.
Satoshi's bitcoins are on addresses that coincide with their public key, because it was an early version of the protocol and addresses were not compressed. So they will be targeted by quantum computers at some point
Please be aware that in 2018 36% of bitcoins have exposed the public key. https://medium.com/@sashagnip/how-many-bitcoins-are-vulnerable-to-a-hypothetical-quantum-attack-3e59e4172e8
With all respect to you Andreas, the credits for breaking the Enigma go to Polish researchers.
@3:06 Casual comment about knowing when quantum computing exists when Satoshi's coins move. Everyone laughed.
@3:17 Followed it with the most terrifying casual comment I have actually heard in my life, I think… Especially if it happens in say the year 2030 or 2050 or 2100. After Bitcoin has swallowed the wealth of the planet…. Satoshi's Bitcoin eventually WILL MOVE. Let that sink in. HOLY FUCK! Whether its Satoshi or not…. HOLY FUCK! I never trusted Bitcoin. BILDERBERG!
6:20 iirc a lot (all?) of satoshi's transactions were p2pk – ie he spent directly to the public key. so we do know his public keys
In the very first block, it's possible see the Satoshi public key